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	<title>Comments on: Starting New Churches&#8230;</title>
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	<description>Along for the Journey...On God's Time</description>
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		<title>By: kairos</title>
		<link>http://kairosblog.com/blog/2006/12/06/starting-new-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-231</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 00:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in awe, of course, and full of prayer for anyone in your situation, Rocky. Well, prayer and anything else that might be of help...

Your point about the differences between Development and Re-Development is a good one; there are major challenges to each, and &quot;fighting&quot; an extant culture is one peculiar challenge of the latter. On the other hand, I&#039;d say its true that we still don&#039;t support either like we should, either through adequate financial commitment, collaboration, or other ministerial support.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in awe, of course, and full of prayer for anyone in your situation, Rocky. Well, prayer and anything else that might be of help&#8230;</p>
<p>Your point about the differences between Development and Re-Development is a good one; there are major challenges to each, and &#8220;fighting&#8221; an extant culture is one peculiar challenge of the latter. On the other hand, I&#8217;d say its true that we still don&#8217;t support either like we should, either through adequate financial commitment, collaboration, or other ministerial support.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 20:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. How germane is this to my last two weeks of staring blankly at a budget that does nothing but produce a whopping deficit, despite the fact that it has a denominational and presbytery transformation grant built into it.

The redevelopment situation and the new development situation are so very, very different from one another. I often envy new church development pastors because they seem to get to do whatever they feel led to do, and with little-to-no resistance. That&#039;s a rosy, grass-is-greener kind of picture that misses important facts, I&#039;m sure. But trying to birth some kind of transformation in an &quot;established&quot; church means that you have to find ways to cultivate new life while also nourishing what life is already there.

Some days it seems to be working (we&#039;re receiving four new members--into a 75 member congregation--in January). Other days it seems futile and pointless (see above regarding budget deficit). The one thing I&#039;m sure is not happening enough, though, is prayer. Intentional, sustained, private, public, expectant, frustrated prayer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. How germane is this to my last two weeks of staring blankly at a budget that does nothing but produce a whopping deficit, despite the fact that it has a denominational and presbytery transformation grant built into it.</p>
<p>The redevelopment situation and the new development situation are so very, very different from one another. I often envy new church development pastors because they seem to get to do whatever they feel led to do, and with little-to-no resistance. That&#8217;s a rosy, grass-is-greener kind of picture that misses important facts, I&#8217;m sure. But trying to birth some kind of transformation in an &#8220;established&#8221; church means that you have to find ways to cultivate new life while also nourishing what life is already there.</p>
<p>Some days it seems to be working (we&#8217;re receiving four new members&#8211;into a 75 member congregation&#8211;in January). Other days it seems futile and pointless (see above regarding budget deficit). The one thing I&#8217;m sure is not happening enough, though, is prayer. Intentional, sustained, private, public, expectant, frustrated prayer.</p>
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