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		<title>Actually Making a progressive argument for a change&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 12:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the many listserves I subscribe to is Sightings, from the Martin Marty center at the University of Chicago Divinity School. capably run by managing editor Jeremy Biles. (Free subscription info for those interested is available on-line.) In my inbox today was this interesting piece by Dr. Marty himself about protestant complancency. I was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>One of the many listserves I subscribe to is <a href="http://marty-center.uchicago.edu/sightings/index.shtml"><em>Sightings</em></a>, from the <a href="http://marty-center.uchicago.edu/">Martin Marty center</a> at the University of Chicago Divinity School. capably run by managing editor Jeremy Biles. (Free subscription info for those interested is available <a href="https://listhost.uchicago.edu/mailman/listinfo/sightings">on-line</a>.)</p>
<p>In my inbox today was this interesting piece by Dr. Marty himself about protestant complancency. I was going to provide excerpts, but I think the full piece is interesting enough to warrant posting about it.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how it starts. More below the fold&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p><em><span style="color: #000000;">Sightings  4/3/06</span></em></p>
<p><em>Robinson and Mainline Protestantism<br />
&#8211; Martin E. Marty</em></p>
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&#8220;A liberal,&#8221; poet Robert Frost wrote, &#8220;is a man&#8221; &#8212; or a woman &#8212; &#8220;too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel.&#8221;  My corollary observation: &#8220;Mainline Protestants are too complacent to make a defense or counterattack when chided or derided.&#8221;  Catholics and Jews have their ready-to-go defense leagues and anti-defamation units. Evangelicals &#8212; who currently own the executive, legislative, and perhaps soon the judicial branches of government; the religious airwaves; and much of publishing &#8212; are organizing for a new &#8220;everyone tromps on us, let&#8217;s fight back&#8221; campaign. But for decades now it has been fashionable to sneer at or stomp on mainline Protestants, who, for a variety of reasons, just take it.</span></em><br />
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Then, from within their camp, along comes a layperson worth listening to &#8212; someone who, for a change, offers perspective and wise counsel.</span></em></p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p><em><span style="color: #000000;">She is Marilynne Robinson, as fine a novelist as we now have (last year she won the Pulitzer and many other literary awards), and whose bully pulpit is the Spring issue of the Phi Beta Kappa journal The American Scholar.  Her piece is called &#8220;Onward, Christian Liberals: Faith is not about piety or personal salvation, but about helping those in need.&#8221;  Usually soft-spoken, here she is roused to criticize &#8220;not only so-called fundamentalists but, more particularly &#8230; the mainline churches, which have fairly assiduously culled out all traces of the depth and learnedness that were for so long among their greatest contributions to American life.&#8221;  Among them there is currently &#8220;a powerful tendency to make belief itself small, whether narrow and bitter or feckless and bland.&#8221;  She will get away with that sentence because many &#8220;mainliners&#8221; recognize enough truth in it to make them wince.</span></em><br />
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In the case she presents, she is more biblical than the biblicists, more fundamental than the fundamentalists, more evangelical than the evangelicals.  <strong>Delving deeply into scriptures and evidencing her learning in theology and ethics, she does not look down on personal piety and holiness.  She simply links them with prophetic and gospel-based calls to ethical response</strong>.  Robinson traces the lines from older, better Great Awakenings to the current capitalism-obsessed awakenings that lead people to avert their gaze from the poor.  Maybe she misfires here and there and overstates the case at times &#8212; but probably not.</span></em><br />
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&#8220;What has personal holiness&#8221; &#8212; which she&#8217;s for, by the way &#8212; &#8220;to do with politics and economics?  Everything, from the liberal Protestant point of view.&#8221;  A seal on her orthodoxy, in case anyone wants to check, is the quotation she takes from Calvin: &#8220;We ought to embrace the whole human race without exception in a single feeling of love; here there is no distinction between barbarian and Greek, worthy and unworthy, friend and enemy, since all should be contemplated in God, not in themselves.  When we turn aside from such contemplation, it is no wonder we become entangled in many errors.&#8221;  Robinson&#8217;s summary: &#8220;This is John Calvin, describing in two sentences a mystical/ethical engagement with the world that fuses truth and love and opens experience on a light so bright it expunges every mean distinction.  There is no doctrine here, no setting of conditions, no drawing of lines.  On the contrary, what he describes is a posture of grace, generosity, liberality.&#8221; </span></em></p>
<div><em><span style="color: #000000;">Here I am, remembering Lent and &#8220;sighting&#8221; John Calvin, as quoted in a secular journal.</span></em></div>
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<div>What is the role of liberal/progressive Christians strongly defending (providing <em>apologia </em>for) their particular worldview? Time to get off our collective butts, if only to be an active and strong part of the conversation for a change?</div>
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		<title>Big Love, progressivism, and polygamy&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://kairosblog.com/blog/2006/03/11/big-love-progressivism-and-polygamy/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 22:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guest Blogger at The Washington Monthly Roxanne Cooper raised the question: &#8220;can either of the two major parties use &#8220;Big Love&#8221; to their political advantage in November?&#8221;. Big Love is the new HBO series on Polygamy, staring Bill Paxton. There&#8217;s been NPR reviews, newspaper articles, and lots of blogging about this, and I gather there&#8217;ll [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Guest Blogger at The Washington Monthly Roxanne Cooper <a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_03/008404.php">raised the question</a>: <em>&#8220;can either of the two major parties use &#8220;Big Love&#8221; to their political advantage in November?&#8221;. </em></p>
<p><em><a href="http://www.hbo.com/biglove/?ntrack_para1=feat_sec2_image">Big Love</a> </em>is the new HBO series on Polygamy, staring Bill Paxton. There&#8217;s been NPR reviews, newspaper articles, and lots of blogging about this, and I gather there&#8217;ll be a renewed low-level cultural discussion about polygamy, in part because of this new series. Alas, someone will make the specious argument that polygamy is the natural offspring of allowing same-sex unions (and bestiality too, in some minds&#8230;). But that&#8217;s another post.</p>
<p>What interests me here is the the first comment to Cooper&#8217;s post, by &#8220;<span class="time"><a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_03/008404.php#844065">faketbrosz</a>&#8220;:</span><em></em></p>
<blockquote><p><em><em>There is no equivalence between the two parties on this issue.</em></em></p>
<p><em><em>The party of death and free love will welcome polygamy with open arms and the party of moarality and personal responsibility has already expressed its disgust with anything other than one man on one woman love. The voters resoundingly rejected Kerry&#8217;s sales pitch that anything other than that is the truth.</em></em></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m a progressive that thinks a strong moral argument can be made against polygamy. The concern I have is for what polygamy does to the women in the relationship and the unequal power dynamics that are part of it. From what I understand, there are real dangers to women in polygamous relationships. Theologically, how can one person fully offer spousal love and relationship with multiple people? (Its a bit of a stretch, but see Luke 16:13) I have no plan to welcome it &#8220;with open arms&#8221;. And I don&#8217;t think that my support for communal, ritual blessing of same-sex unions opens any door to polygamous ones, or the sanction of just &#8220;any&#8221; relationship.</p>
<p>I think it would do us good to rethink the moral norms of a progressive sexuality. There <strong>are</strong> such norms, we just need to articulate them better. Otherwise, people will continue to make some traction with the trope that progressives seemingly will welcome anything &#8220;with open arms.&#8221;</p>
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